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Expense Reimbursement Post-Pay Continuous Audit

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Alexandra Watters
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Hi SCTEM,

My name is Allie Watters, and I'm the Expense Reimbursement Program Manager for University of Wisconsin-Madison. We are currently in the middle of developing and implementing a continuous audit of paid expense reports for UW-Madison. We have 200-300 reports that are approved for payment daily, and, of those, 3-5 are selected at random for audit. (This is a very gentle start to a much larger, longer-term project in development for continuous audit.) The entire expense report is pulled and reviewed for policy compliance, accuracy, etc.

We are currently trying to develop a risk/severity matrix for audit findings, and I am wondering if anyone would be able to share/discuss what your university has developed for this purpose. Generally speaking, if anyone has any best practices/lessons learned on developing a continuous post-pay audit - I'm all ears - and would love to connect.

Allie Watters
Expense Reimbursement Program Manager, UW-Madison
Allie.Watters@wisc.edu

Note: My name and email address have recently changed due to marriage. My married last name is Watters (formerly Demet), and my new email is Allie.Watters@wisc.edu. You can still send messages to Alexandra.Demet@wisc.edu, and I will receive them, but I would prefer that you update my contact information to Allie Watters at Allie.Watters@wisc.edu.

 
Posted : 17/03/2023 6:03 am
Dan Parnas
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Hi Allie, I'm curious why you are auditing them after payment. Wouldn't it make more sense to perform the audit before payment? What is the benefit of finding out after the payment has already occurred? When we talk about controls, I always point out that we shouldn't be employing any more strenuous controls on reimbursements than we do on invoices. When the amount of spend and risk on invoices is exponentially higher than reimbursements, the controls probably should also be stronger on invoices. UC Berkeley's audit process is for travel, anything over $1,000 and entertainment, anything over $500 is audited prior to payment. It doesn't even come into our audit queue until the department/funding approver has reviewed it and approved it. We feel that covers the majority of risk, using the 80/20 rule, of trying to audit roughly 20% of the transactions, which should cover roughly 80% of the total dollars. We have found that it works well for us.

 
Posted : 17/03/2023 10:44 am
Alexandra Watters
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for this reply and engaging in conversation on the topic! We mandate two levels of approvers prior to each expense report approval on campus.

This post-pay audit of expense reports is an exercise meant to catch instances of fraud, policy noncompliance, and track procedural errors as well(monitor approver performance and traveler compliance). It's a small sample set that we're starting with.

 
Posted : 10/04/2023 6:45 am
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